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Padre35 | As I sat through a mid 50's early January day, peddling up a mtn, i was pondering this a bit:"Is a increase in global temperatures a truly undesirable thing, if so why, if not why"? Have read countless online discussions about this subject and neither side has my convinced not to the cause per se, rather to the actual effects and whether they will be good or ill. Anyone have thoughts on this? |
juniperb | A quick response that has me up at night... is the bears. Due to the later fall, warmer temps which caused droughts and less snow with warmer nights, the are not hibernating when they should. They are meandering around and one sees them when least expected and they seem starved & ornery! This causes numerous headaches on the farm and long term adjustments here are required. Personally, I love the kinder warmer autumns and winters ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek |
Padre35 | Well, actually a bear may or may not hibernate an entire winter, if the weather favors it they will leave their dens. |
mockingbird | http://m.newser.com/story/160711/family-trapped-on-jetty-as-aussie-fires-rage.html Monday was Austalia's hottest day ever. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. |
juniperb | Padre, I guess that`s a good general answer but here they snooze nice and comfy in their dens til spring. No January marauding. But then again, warm Januaries are a recent thing. Poor bears ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek |
Padre35 | quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Padre, I guess that`s a good general answer but here they snooze nice and comfy in their dens til spring. No January marauding. But then again, warm Januaries are a recent thing. Poor bears
Not necessarily, keep in mind "recent" in geological time is counted in tens of millions of years. |
Padre35 | quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: http://m.newser.com/story/160711/family-trapped-on-jetty-as-aussie-fires-rage.html Monday was Austalia's hottest day ever.
Eh, and 5 yrs from now it could be the wettest ever.
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Randall | Some isolated increases in temperature and dcreases in other areas, but globally of no consequence. ------------------ "Fall down 100 times, get up 101...this is success." --ME |
Padre35 | quote: Originally posted by Randall: Some isolated increases in temperature and decreases in other areas, but globally of no consequence.
A truism, my passion is more about water tbh. Once a water source is polluted, it takes a tremendous amount of time for the water source to be purified again. Like the hudson were GE leaked PCB's into the river for decades, literally it is either wait for sediment to bury the polluted layers, or temp dam the rivers and remove the tainted river bottom. |
Randall | True. ------------------ "Fall down 100 times, get up 101...this is success." --ME |
Padre35 | quote: Originally posted by Randall: True.
Thanks, this to me is such an important issue that "Global Warming" hides it.A good example is the massive aquifer under the Sahara, a previous climate shift caused the Sahara to go from "Lush plain" to desert. Fine Pollute that aquifer and it poisons the entire region.
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Randall | Posted a new topic about this in GU. ------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz |
SpooL | Global warming is a very tricky topic. First off the fundamental principal in Geology is the concept of Uniformitarianism. The concept is the same processes that have shaped the earth are the same process that continue to change the earth. The only difference is the rate of change. Physical geographers on the other hand study meterology which is all about weather patterns and weather always forms in the Atmosphere. The problem is when Climatologist do a climate normal its based on 10yrs averages. Its very easy to get bad statistics. The geologists could argue that earth had gone thought similar climate cycles in its passed and the same process are at work again. You can argue for or against. ------------------------ Capircorn Rising Gemini Sun Aries Moon Mercury in Gemini venus in Tarrus Mars Cancer |
Randall | Garbage in, garbage out...when the computer models fail, as they always have. |
Randall | Also, Mars is warming. Must be all of the Martian cars and BBQ grills. |
Randall | The Earths orbit and the Sun's activity are the two main contributors to the natural and cyclical warming and cooling trends. |